tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post6722799884496730027..comments2024-03-24T07:21:48.542+00:00Comments on Please Do Not Feed The Animals!: Honey And Pear Layer Cake.Please Do Not Feed The Animals.http://www.blogger.com/profile/18253995950103215275noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-13361649662644973682011-11-26T21:32:07.557+00:002011-11-26T21:32:07.557+00:00Thanks for posing the copyright question. It was r...Thanks for posing the copyright question. It was really interesting to see people views. I have felt funny about it before but I never copy the recipe exactly and I almost always change 2 or 3 ingredients. I also agree with Dom, we are kind of free advertising for the author so perhaps it's okay. Beautiful cake!Cakefairybloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14715492870507358469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-70719667193517533372011-11-06T20:06:15.932+00:002011-11-06T20:06:15.932+00:00This cake is amazing! Thanks for raising the point...This cake is amazing! Thanks for raising the point re recipes. I always credit or link to recipes so feel I am promoting them. It's a difficult one though.MissCakeBakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18011701273453302769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-54032080951041875812011-11-03T21:44:47.109+00:002011-11-03T21:44:47.109+00:00Wow you were busy! Your ghost meringues look great...Wow you were busy! Your ghost meringues look great and I love the owl on the wall.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14509940451345540183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-49414522952608830372011-11-01T22:06:37.027+00:002011-11-01T22:06:37.027+00:00Heather - cool! Mink's in for some yummy thin...Heather - cool! Mink's in for some yummy things. :-)Please Do Not Feed The Animals.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18253995950103215275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-60775279291211790062011-11-01T20:01:03.323+00:002011-11-01T20:01:03.323+00:00I'm in luck my local library has that book, it...I'm in luck my local library has that book, it's on loan at the moment but I've put it on hold.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08026958225478081382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-61467554933508498832011-11-01T10:59:33.889+00:002011-11-01T10:59:33.889+00:00Kate - it's a great book, isn't it? And n...Kate - it's a great book, isn't it? And now, inspired by my success with this recipe, I hope to make lots more of their recipes.<br /><br />Heather - oh I'm sorry - if I had done this post a week ago, I would have written out the recipe in full. I hope the library has it for you. I love getting random cookbooks out of the library. I use them more than my own books as I always feel I have it for only a short time so I should make a few things.<br /><br />Kim - Yes, I'm thinking that adapting the recipes and making them my own before writing them out is going to be a little more effort but will probably be very rewarding and will make me feel better.<br /><br />Victoria - thank you for your kind words.<br /><br />Dom - I agree entirely.<br /><br />Manu - thank you :-). I was pleased with it. <br /><br />FBMKW - I imagine most authors would prefer to have their books written about than not. I'm just going to try to think about it a bit more.<br /><br />Laura - Yes, he loved it. Can't go wrong with pear and honey!<br /><br />Eli - thanks for dropping by - I'm slowly trying to visit everyone in the HH POMC.<br /><br />Anna - Thank you for calling my cake elegant. Usually I am anything but elegant so that thrills me. And with regards to being able to copy the list of ingredients, that is really helpful as I do tend to make the method up as I go along and take lots of shortcuts so I can easily rewrite a method to be a bit different!<br /><br />Sally - thanks very much for the link! Very helpful. I like this bit - <br /><br />"1. If you're modifying someone else's recipe, it should be called "adapted from".<br /><br />2. If you change a recipe substantially, you may be able to call it your own. But if it's somewhat similar to a publisher recipe, you should say it's "inspired by", which means that you used else's recipe for inspiration, but changed it substantially.<br /><br />3. If you change three ingredients, you can in most instances call the recipe yours." David Lebovitz.<br /><br />And the good thing is that I ALWAYS say where a recipe has come from. I would never have the cheek to try and suggest that I had made something up myself.<br /><br />Emily - spellbound? Oh what a wonderful thing to say - thank you! :-)Please Do Not Feed The Animals.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18253995950103215275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-16556012463395123782011-11-01T01:59:44.938+00:002011-11-01T01:59:44.938+00:00Popping in via Happy Homemaker's Post of the M...Popping in via Happy Homemaker's Post of the Month Club! I'm spellbound by your beautiful cake! What a delicious undertaking!Emilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03200079435640797497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-58612457513700777532011-10-31T17:11:10.930+00:002011-10-31T17:11:10.930+00:00Fantastic cake - you must have been extremely prou...Fantastic cake - you must have been extremely proud when you put that one on the table. A labour of love. This link from the Food Blog Alliance is a good guide. http://foodblogalliance.com/2009/04/recipe-attribution.php#moreSally - My Custard Piehttp://www.mycustardpie.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-39726453470673188722011-10-31T15:13:49.342+00:002011-10-31T15:13:49.342+00:00That really is a beautiful and elegant birthday ca...That really is a beautiful and elegant birthday cake for your Dad!<br /><br />Regarding recipes on blogs- I read somewhere that it's ok to copy the ingredient list, but not the method.Anna's kitchen tablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05346265448350378923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-16133509269163793612011-10-31T14:11:43.826+00:002011-10-31T14:11:43.826+00:00This is beautiful and my mouth is watering. Thanks...This is beautiful and my mouth is watering. Thanks for linking to MM UK post of the month...that's where I'm visiting from...have a fabulous day.Elihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17965232643763861940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-65490727831748340332011-10-31T11:41:15.010+00:002011-10-31T11:41:15.010+00:00Woo-wee, girl! You've got talent! I would neve...Woo-wee, girl! You've got talent! I would never have the confidence to tackle making such a beautiful beast. It looks delicious - did he love it? <br /><br />As far as recipes, my gut goes with not publishing recipes since I assume they are copyrighted, and it is someone's creativity/talent. I'm sure a cookbook endorsement would always be welcomed :) It's a toughy, isn't it? <br /><br />Thank you for joining Post Of The Month Club! XOLauraTravel With Luluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09646026064261601469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-30970349918217696762011-10-31T00:37:36.429+00:002011-10-31T00:37:36.429+00:00First off the cake is utterly gorgeous. Secondly,...First off the cake is utterly gorgeous. Secondly, I have published recipes also and feel like you do but then again we are giving the cookbook author raves reviews. Hard to say what is the right thing to do.From Beyond My Kitchen Windowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10748389222000989848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-61153924899458980742011-10-30T21:32:58.818+00:002011-10-30T21:32:58.818+00:00This cake is simply divine!!
LOLThis cake is simply divine!!<br />LOLManuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15369579914829275269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-30815853979990438912011-10-30T21:12:14.218+00:002011-10-30T21:12:14.218+00:00Well firstly this looks amazing. Nice work. Second...Well firstly this looks amazing. Nice work. Secondly I feel exactly what you feel and I think little mac has put it very elegantly. I too felt dreadful publishing cake recipes from the boy who bakes but I guess I felt that we're promoting these people as well so I let myself off in the end...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11431297921869969693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-36833415388505439892011-10-30T15:28:27.160+00:002011-10-30T15:28:27.160+00:00this is incredible! such a fantastic effort! :)this is incredible! such a fantastic effort! :)Victoriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08588892251394768692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-38526063064988796412011-10-30T10:46:52.056+00:002011-10-30T10:46:52.056+00:00Beautiful cake!
I was thinking about posting re...Beautiful cake! <br /><br />I was thinking about posting recipes when I was writing up the apple cake for Cake Slice. I had never given it too much thought before, but something felt wrong as I was copying it out of the book. Recipe copyright is definitely a tricky issue, but something I am starting to give more thought too.Everyday momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07354687510342316951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-53712972569946932792011-10-30T10:07:37.460+00:002011-10-30T10:07:37.460+00:00That cake looks amazing, I might have to give it a...That cake looks amazing, I might have to give it a go next year if the pear tree goes crazy again. I might see if my local library's got this recipe book because I have no space for cookery books in my house I rely on recipes found on the internet/tv programmes and ripped out of magazines.Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08026958225478081382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-48868708941553112792011-10-30T08:45:19.076+00:002011-10-30T08:45:19.076+00:00What a scrummy scrummy recipe- I too have this boo...What a scrummy scrummy recipe- I too have this book, and spend long hours pouring over the gorgeous photos and delicius recipes. I'm really impressed with the fruit!<br /><br />It is such a tricky, tricky issue, reporducing recipes. I try not to reproduce verbatim- for example changing the method by writing it my own way. I often change the recipe a little- add or subtract an ingredient, change the size etc- and I feel it is sort of okay and write the recipe out if I do this. But I may be very wrong....Kate@whatkatebakedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03377869776999540690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-5576832872860722892011-10-30T07:54:10.648+00:002011-10-30T07:54:10.648+00:00Thank you very much Alex and Little Macaroon. It ...Thank you very much Alex and Little Macaroon. It is really helpful getting everyone's take on it. I guess it's just affirming what I was thinking.<br />Now the only problem is being more creative so that I'm not just posting a list of other people's recipes.Please Do Not Feed The Animals.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18253995950103215275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-13827409399089840722011-10-30T07:35:19.376+00:002011-10-30T07:35:19.376+00:00It's so beautiful, and I can just imagine how ...It's so beautiful, and I can just imagine how delicious it was. Lucky Grampa.<br /><br />The copyright/reproduction issue. Having not read the tweeting that you refer to, apologies if I repeat them. It can seem like a tricky conundrum but I think it has very simple answer. As I understood it when I worked in publishing; reproduction without permission is is infringement, end of. Which is rather a boring answer. If the copyright owner saw a blog and believed (like most human beans) in shades of grey, drawing no profit from the website in terms of sponsorship or advertising, and an unmistakably positive and promotional tone, could only be in the blogger's favour. However, if they simply see the world in black and white... copyright is copyright.<br /><br />Trouble is, everyone does it right? Being pragmatic, who gives a hoot about small-scale mummy bloggers making a few mistakes - probably noone. Sleb chef's in-house counsels probably have bigger fish to fry. But then there's the moral standpoint; just because everyone's doing it doesn't make it right.<br /><br />For some reason I feel like it's fair game to reproduce a recipe on a blog that's been serialised in a newspaper/magazine. I don't know why I feel this way, or whether it's the right stance to take. I dunno, they've sort of given away their content/put it into the public domain, so it feels okay. I may be utterly wrong.<br /><br />Naturally I'm on shaky ground here too. I summarised a recipe on my site for the RR this month, and I've felt uncomfortable about it ever since. I've been thinking of editing it and removing the recipe, as I hope the post could stand with just a summary of the cooking experience rather than the recipe.<br /><br />You need to feel 100% comfortable with what you're writing, but I definitely don't want you to blog any less, I love seeing your posts pop up on my dashboard!!!little macaroon.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05608420609275858904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-58167635280297968832011-10-30T07:31:28.873+00:002011-10-30T07:31:28.873+00:00Lou this cake is stunning & I'm sure it ta...Lou this cake is stunning & I'm sure it tasted amazing too. to.<br /><br />The recipe debate is a complicated one. As far as I'm aware you cannot legally copyright an ingredients list, this is because there only so many ways to make something. You can however copyright the written method & I wouldn't dream of copying this verbatim. I think as long as you credit the original author & the source it's fine. I apply the same principal to recipes I've adapted. Obviously this changes if you have the kind of blog where you are cooking from one end of a book to another. In the ideal world it would be lovely if we were all producing 100% original content all time, but then what would that do to book sales. I own 74 cookbooks, I'm sure a lot of the recipes can be found somewhere on the internet but I bought them because I like them as physical objects.Alexhttp://dearloveblog.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-22033411231266647722011-10-29T23:35:20.236+01:002011-10-29T23:35:20.236+01:00BVG - that's how I have been justifying it to ...BVG - that's how I have been justifying it to myself. Problem is, I have started to blog a few recipes from the same books...hmmmm.<br /><br />C - I think you have a very sensible approach to it and one I will be likely to follow now, I think. I guess I can also try to get hold of the author and seek permission. In fact, I just really need to start doing more adapting. I think after this last year of baking a lot, I am much more confident about changing recipes than I was before so it's probably inevitable I will start doing so.Please Do Not Feed The Animals.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18253995950103215275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-76908707239113580592011-10-29T23:22:01.502+01:002011-10-29T23:22:01.502+01:00Wow, what a stunning looking cake, I'm sure he...Wow, what a stunning looking cake, I'm sure he was over the moon with it! I love the idea of baking pears into each layer - it must have been so moist and delicious. Perfectly seasonal too.<br /><br />If I can find a recipe on the internet I will link to it, and then may also reproduce it on my blog, but I do try not to reproduce recipes unless I've altered them fairly significantly. I'm sure there's stuff out there about copyright, but it just doesn't seem right to reproduce verbatim. I'm not perfect though - sometimes I want to share the recipe so much that I'll do it anyway, hoping that if I've enjoyed the recipe that much, people will be inspired to buy the book. I'm never likely to reproduce a whole load of recipes from one book though.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13067886984635079539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1312788323256129344.post-30689735878576600652011-10-29T22:47:28.660+01:002011-10-29T22:47:28.660+01:00Totally professional looking Lou - I bet he was de...Totally professional looking Lou - I bet he was delighted.<br /><br />Re reprinting recipes - I would be more likely to buy a cookery book if I had seen a couple of the recipes on the blogs I read - I would see them as little temptations!!Brownieville Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02492647486930989408noreply@blogger.com